BBC Breakfast presenter Dan Walker has apologised to Professor Claire Hopkins, after the show referred to one of her male peers by his official title, but didn’t give her the same distinction.
Professor Hopkins was a guest during a pre-recorded section of Wednesday’s BBC Breakfast, where she discussed her work campaigning for the loss of sense and smell as a result of Covid-19 to be taken more seriously.
After the show, she wrote on Twitter about the key difference between how she and a male colleague, Professor Nirmal Kumar – who was interviewed live by Dan and co-host Louise Minchin – were introduced.
Alongside two screengrabs, she wrote: “Spot the difference… delighted to take part in an interview on BBC Breakfast this morning with my colleague. We are both Professors and Consultant ENT surgeons… why don’t we get treated in the same way?”
Spot the difference…. delighted to take part in an interview on BBC breakfast this morning with my colleague. We are both Professors and Consultant ENT surgeons…..why don’t we get treated in the same way?#untitling#unconcious bias pic.twitter.com/ix9ra3Yryy
— Professor Claire Hopkins (@SnotSurgeon) February 10, 2021
Shortly afterwards, Dan shared a public response to Professor Hopkins, writing: “Good morning Professor. First of all, apologies. I have spoken to my boss. Not sure what happened as we are normally very tight on titles of guests.
“What I can say, and it’s not an excuse, is that you were in the package and he was a live guest off the back so the ‘astons’ – as we call them – would have been made by different people.
“It still shouldn’t have happened though. Thank you for flagging it up, thanks for your hard work and hopefully we’ll get to speak to you again soon.”
Good morning Professor. First of all, apologies. I have spoken to my boss. Not sure what happened as we are normally very tight on titles of guests. What I can say, and it’s not an excuse, is that you were in the package and he was a live guest off the back so the ‘astons’…
— Dan Walker (@mrdanwalker) February 10, 2021
as we call them – would have been made by different people. It still shouldn’t have happened though. Thank you for flagging it up, thanks for your hard work & hopefully we’ll get to speak to you again soon.
— Dan Walker (@mrdanwalker) February 10, 2021
Responding to Dan’s apology, Professor Hopkins wrote back: “Thanks for the apology. Same thing happened when you introduced me during a live interview last year too, when you spoke with ‘Claire and Professor Semple’.
“When coming on to give an expert opinion, titles matter. Everywhere else, I’d be delighted if [you] called me Claire.”
Thanks for the apology. Same thing happened when you introduced me during a live interview last year too, when you spoke with ‘Claire and Professor Semple’…. when coming on to give an expert opinion, titles matter. Everywhere else, I’d be delighted if called me Claire
— Professor Claire Hopkins (@SnotSurgeon) February 10, 2021
Yes, I just realised that Claire. I think I apologised to you at the time too if I remember – which doesn’t make it easier because that is now twice. Today I called your fellow Prof ‘Nirmal’ which was also in error. I know if probably feels like an issue but I can assure you…
— Dan Walker (@mrdanwalker) February 10, 2021
…that this is something we are normally hot on at breakfast. Anyway, I’m sorry you’ve had to tweet about this and I hope this is the last time. I’m annoyed on your behalf because I know how hard you have worked and trained to get to where you are. Dan
— Dan Walker (@mrdanwalker) February 10, 2021
I’m sure we have all made similar mistakes many times over – it will take many years of conscious effort to overcome centuries of inequality and gender stereotypes. Thank-you for recognising it (twice) and here’s hoping for third time lucky
— Professor Claire Hopkins (@SnotSurgeon) February 10, 2021
Appreciate your understanding & patience. Thank you.
— Dan Walker (@mrdanwalker) February 10, 2021
A BBC spokesperson later told HuffPost UK: “We have contacted Professor Hopkins and explained it was human error.”
BBC Breakfast airs every weekday from 6am on BBC One.